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Serbian ћ, Maltese ħ and Planck's constant

  • May. 4th, 2011 at 9:51 PM
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nwhyte
This is a poll about letters and symbols which should look like a lower-case letter 'h' with a horizontal stroke through the top.

Poll #1738030
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: All. Participants: 107

Tell me, on the browser you are using right now, and considering the letters ћ (Serbian lower-case Ћ), ħ (Maltese lower-case Ħ) and ℏ ()Planck's constant divided by 2π), is it the case that:

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ћ, ħ and ℏ look identical
5(4.7%)
ћ looks like ħ but ℏ doesn't resolve properly
6(5.6%)
ћ looks like ħ but ℏ looks different (though it does resolve)
70(65.4%)
ћ looks like ℏ but ħ doesn't resolve properly
0(0.0%)
ћ looks like ℏ but ħ looks different (though it does resolve)
0(0.0%)
ħ looks like ℏ but ћ doesn't resolve properly
0(0.0%)
ħ looks like ℏ but ћ looks different (though it does resolve)
0(0.0%)
ћ, ħ and ℏ all resolve properly and look different from each other
24(22.4%)
ћ looks different from ħ and ℏ doesn't resolve properly
1(0.9%)
ћ looks different from ℏ and ħ doesn't resolve properly
0(0.0%)
ħ looks different from ℏ and ћ doesn't resolve properly
1(0.9%)
only ћ resolves properly; ħ and ℏ don't
0(0.0%)
only ħ resolves properly; ћ and ℏ don't
0(0.0%)
only ℏ resolves properly; ћ and ħ don't
0(0.0%)
I can't see any of these characters
0(0.0%)

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tree_and_leaf
May. 4th, 2011 07:58 pm (UTC)
Though it's very marginal - they all differ slightly in width, but you have to look closely to see the difference between the first two (the third is more obviously).
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happydisciple
May. 4th, 2011 08:04 pm (UTC)
Hmm, inspecting ћ and ħ very closely they are different, although the differences are slight and very much dependent on the actual font used. In this text input box the differences are quite clear, same with the page title in the window's title bar, but the differences in the body of the entry are far from obvious.
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tchernabyelo
May. 4th, 2011 08:14 pm (UTC)
I boosted to 400% and couldn't see a difference, but font may well affect it.
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chess
May. 4th, 2011 09:09 pm (UTC)
I can see the difference in this comment but not the text of the poll.
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deborah_c
May. 4th, 2011 11:23 pm (UTC)
Similarly (Firefox 4 on Windows XP). In the poll, they are (I think) identical; in the comment, the second glyph has the horizontal bar marginally lower and shorter.
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niamh_sage
May. 5th, 2011 04:05 am (UTC)
Same here.
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raycun
May. 5th, 2011 08:22 am (UTC)
Me four.
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flick
May. 4th, 2011 08:15 pm (UTC)
I'm fairly sure that the first two look different when I zoom all the way in, although there's not much in it: the upright bit on the first one is, I think, slightly more upright than on the second.

The third is very different, though.
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flick
May. 4th, 2011 08:17 pm (UTC)
Oh, but having looked at the comment above, they are more clearly different in the title bar: the lower part of the second is bigger than that of the first, which looks more squared off.
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alexmc
May. 4th, 2011 09:30 pm (UTC)
This is what I see too. The first two "h"s are different in the title bar, but not in the poll.

(Windows XP, firefox 3.x)
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owlfish
May. 4th, 2011 10:24 pm (UTC)
Same here. In the title bar, I can tell teh difference, but not - now that I looked it carefully, in the poll itself.
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davidcook
May. 5th, 2011 02:26 pm (UTC)
Same for me, and a different browser/OS version to report: Firefox 4, Mac OS X.
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qatsi
May. 4th, 2011 08:17 pm (UTC)
I can't really tell whether the first two are the same or not - therefore they look sufficiently similar for me to classify them as "the same". The Reduced Planck's constant is definitely different, though.
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sinclair_furie
May. 4th, 2011 08:28 pm (UTC)
The first two look the same when the font is small, but in the title of your post the bar is bigger in the Serbian h-bar than the Maltese one.
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nwhyte
May. 4th, 2011 08:30 pm (UTC)
Yes, same for me!
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bopeepsheep
May. 4th, 2011 08:31 pm (UTC)
Yes, this.
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xipuloxx
May. 5th, 2011 07:30 pm (UTC)
And me.
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dougs
May. 4th, 2011 09:39 pm (UTC)
I've answered the poll for my laptop: on the phone Planck's constant doesn't show up.
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nwhyte
May. 5th, 2011 07:02 am (UTC)
Yes, same for me; Planck's constant is a box on both Blackberry and Android. Which I guess demonstrates the relative market strength of physicists vis-a-vis Serbs and Maltese...
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niamh_sage
May. 5th, 2011 04:05 am (UTC)
I'm using Chrome.
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flexor
May. 5th, 2011 07:31 am (UTC)
The bar on the ћ is lower than it is on ħ in this text box, though not in the post itself. The ℏ looks different in that there is a slant on the stroke.

Firefox 3.5.13 here.
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matgb
May. 5th, 2011 08:42 am (UTC)
Isn't it more a factor of OS and fonts installed than actual browser--if your PC has a font that supports it, it should display on any browser, if not it won't.

fWIW, when i increase to 400%, the two letters in the title do look slightly different, that's in Verdana on Win7 using Firefox.
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redfiona99
May. 5th, 2011 08:51 am (UTC)
Firefox (sadly don't know what version). The Serbian and Maltese letters look the same, Plank's constant looks different.
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yea_mon
May. 5th, 2011 03:04 pm (UTC)
All look different, but I reckon that I'm able to recognise the difference between ћ and ħ because of my exposure to Japanese characters.

My Browser is Firefox 3.
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ravenskyewalker
May. 5th, 2011 05:29 pm (UTC)
Interesting. I was seeing this on my ereader yesterday; the first two looked the same and the third was just a blank box. I'm seeing it on a computer now, and I can see the difference between the first two in the subject line (but not in the rest of the post), and the Planck's constant symbol is definitely distinctive.
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lostcarpark
May. 6th, 2011 06:13 pm (UTC)
Well doh! THey all look the same at normal zoom (in Ubuntu/Firefox), but when I zoom in, Planck's one has the bar at an angle. Shame I didn't think of that before voting.
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