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Lying eurosceptics

Someone asked me recently about the claims made by "No2EU - Yes to Democracy", a eurosceptic group (supported by the RMT, one of the larger British trade unions) running in the coming European elections.

I had a look at the site, concentrating in particular on the page about EU foreign policy, which is my particular area of interest. I was startled to see that it starts and ends with two outright lies.

The header to the article reads as follows:
The Lisbon Treaty further militarises the EU
One of the articles of the Constitution allows for the death penalty to be introduced "in time of war or of imminent threat of war".
There is no such text in the Lisbon Treaty or in the EU's Charter of Fundamental Rights. The line quoted is from Protocol No. 6 to the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, which is not an EU document, not a Constitution, commits its signatories to abolish the death penalty except in extraordinary circumstances, and has anyway been in force since 1998 so it is a bit late to start worrying about it now.

The final paragraph of the No2EU article reads as follows (original punctuation preserved):
The Lisbon Treaty does not require EU military actions to be in accordance with the United Nations Charter,
I quote from the text of the Lisbon Treaty, paragraph 49, my emphasis:
The common security and defence policy shall be an integral part of the common foreign and security policy. It shall provide the Union with an operational capacity drawing on civilian and military assets. The Union may use them on missions outside the Union for peace-keeping, conflict prevention and strengthening international security in accordance with the principles of the United Nations Charter.
Most of the other statements on the page are debatable, but it's pretty brave (or something) to put two such blatant untruths top and bottom. A useful reminder that the eurosceptic Left can be just as crazy as the eurosceptic Right.



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May. 25th, 2009 07:54 pm (UTC)
Welcome to the world of the Lisbon Treaty debate in Ireland. I felt desperately sorry for the pro-treaty spokespeople. I mean many of them were doing a thoroughly ham fisted job on their own but the rest of them were just left in the dust by the series of 'say whatever you bloody well like' lies that poured from the various anti-treaty factions. No sooner would they counter one egregious falsehood than they would come up with two or three more, sometimes in the same paragraph. It was worse than debating evolution with a creationist. By the time the vote came round they had people convinced that the Lisbon Treaty would bring in abortion, conscription, forced immigration, EU-wide taxation, and probably even a total ban on Guinness and ice cream. And my head aches at the thought that we will have to do it all again!
May. 25th, 2009 08:22 pm (UTC)
"Don't let the facts get in the way of an argument."
May. 26th, 2009 01:49 pm (UTC)
"which is not an EU document, not a Constitution"

It is an EU Council document, is it not?
May. 26th, 2009 03:05 pm (UTC)
C'mon, Colm, I shouldn't have to tell you the difference between the Council of Europe and the European Council!!!!
May. 26th, 2009 03:13 pm (UTC)
hehe...just pointing out the potential confusion in symantics and seeing would you bite :)
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