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paw/pour/poor poll

Which of the following applies to you:

I pronounce 'paw', 'pour' and 'poor' the same
I pronounce 'paw' and 'pour' the same, but 'poor' differently
I pronounce 'paw' and 'poor' the same, but 'pour' differently
I pronounce 'pour' and 'poor' the same, but 'paw' differently
I pronounce 'paw', 'pour' and 'poor' differently from each other
Something else which I will explain in comments


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Feb. 29th, 2012 08:59 pm (UTC)
I can't actually tell if I pronouce "pour" and "poor" differently now that I'm trying to pay attention to them! I'd like to think I do, but i fear I don't, so went with the answer that's more likely to be right-as-in-true rather than right-as-in-"correct."
Feb. 29th, 2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
Yes, me too! I keep muttering all three to myself. I'm fairly sure that in casual conversation I pronounce all three the same, though.
Feb. 29th, 2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
Aye-paw is definitely different from the other two, but I sorta think pour gets a bit of a u added, but not much, and it'd be hard to notice.

then, my vowels are getting messed up moving from Debbun to Yorksher.
Feb. 29th, 2012 09:16 pm (UTC)
One you left out: pore is a different sound again.
Feb. 29th, 2012 09:20 pm (UTC)
Yes, I should have thought of that. How do you pronounce it?
Feb. 29th, 2012 09:38 pm (UTC)
When my local accent is strong it becomes two syllables. (The Oxfordshire R is not actually an intrusive R in pore - POR-uh - but it is in path - PAR-uth.)

paw, pawr, PAW-ur, POR-uh. When I'm channelling my mum aka being a bit posher, poor changes from pawr to POO-uh.

Edit: I can't quite get pour indicated the way I'd like. I may have to go and look up actual phonetics.

Edited at 2012-02-29 09:41 pm (UTC)
Feb. 29th, 2012 09:17 pm (UTC)
For the people who pronounce 'poor' and 'pour' differently-- how you pronounce 'pore'?
Feb. 29th, 2012 09:21 pm (UTC)
Same as pour.
Feb. 29th, 2012 10:12 pm (UTC)
I suspect the answer to all these sorts of questions depends on who I am with, the formality of the speech, how much I've had to drink and many other factors.
Mar. 1st, 2012 12:10 am (UTC)
My brain pretends it registers a difference between them but I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually make it as far as the sound I produce.
Mar. 1st, 2012 01:15 am (UTC)
Poor has a different vowel than the other two, for me, but if there's a difference between paw and pour at all it's in that elusive British final 'r' that isn't really there unless there's a following vowel. So "Paw a cup" and "Pour a cup" would be different, but the words in isolation aren't. Pore is likely to get a bit more of that ghostly r, but maybe that's because I spent several years in America.
Mar. 1st, 2012 07:25 am (UTC)
You're right. I ticked, having said it a few times, that I pronounced them all the same, but in fact in practice I wouldn't pronounce them anything like each other in context.
Mar. 1st, 2012 07:34 am (UTC)
Which "British" accent is this, then?

(A good many of us - far more than is usually supposed - are rhotic and have non-elusive Rs.)
Mar. 1st, 2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
South Yorkshire, modified by two generations of independent school and only slightly bent by thirteen years in Arizona -- not as arhotic as southern RP, but the r sound is still more in my mind than in my mouth unless I'm having trouble making myself understood to an American audience.

(Apologies re "British" -- I was thinking in expat mode there.)

Mar. 1st, 2012 09:03 am (UTC)
Well, I wanted to say that I pronounce "paw" differently:

I am more likely to shorten the word "paw" than "pour" or "poor", but I chose the option "all the same".
Mar. 1st, 2012 09:04 am (UTC)
You know.... I can hear a difference between "paws" and "pours".....weird
Mar. 1st, 2012 10:38 am (UTC)
I'm now muttering to myself. poor paw pour poor paw pour... ;-)
Mar. 1st, 2012 11:59 am (UTC)
I was going to say all three differently, but I went with paw and pour the same because I couldn't hear the difference when I said it. And then I read ellarien's reply and I think that's probably the closest to reality.
Mar. 1st, 2012 12:19 pm (UTC)
I say paw and pour (and pore) very slightly differently from each other, but poor as two syllables. I used to have an English boyfriend who used to "correct" me on this Welsh pronunciation which made me stubborn about it such that I have stuck to it even while unconsciously switching to RP on all kinds of other words. (I now quite naturally pronounce "ears" and "years" differently, for instance.)
Mar. 3rd, 2012 07:27 pm (UTC)
Paw, poor, pour or poor, all four. Cor! More?
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